Comments on: Bullfight in Santander http://www.erik-rasmussen.com/blog/2006/07/25/bullfight-in-santander/ Thoughts and photos from an American living in Spain. Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:08:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Teresa http://www.erik-rasmussen.com/blog/2006/07/25/bullfight-in-santander/#comment-3015 Teresa Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:32:32 +0000 http://www.erik-rasmussen.com/blog/2006/07/25/bullfight-in-santander/#comment-3015 Hey Erik, You seem to know enough about bullfighting as to explain it in this pics but let me tell u some things. Maybe you didnt notice but when El Juli goes around the ring is because he won a trophy, this is, the bull's ear. You need to cut out at least 2 of them to get out of the Plaza trough the main gate (Puerta Grande) up in someone shoulders. U say that el Fandi's banderillas looked like portuguese, and u were right but the thing is that green and red are the colors that represent Granada, El Fandi's hometown. U say also that "sometimes, the bullfighters will remove their hat and throw it to the ground", well it happens any time they offer thair "faena" to the public, called in the bullfighting slung "el repetable". To the people that is against bullfighting i just wanna say that the bull is the most respectable animal in Spain. They live only for the show and they have a better death than the most of the animals in the world. Moreover, they die with dignity and with the applause of the people. When u go to the arena u receive a slip with the 6 bulls profile, name, weith, color, date of birth, the name of the farmer, etc. And thats important too coz the bulls are known (normally we call it after the name of the farmer or sometimes they are enough famous as to be known by his own name). Anyways, what i wanted to say that this is not cruel, I Dont try people from other cultures to understand it coz we r just from different cultures, but if u never saw a bullfighting dont judge us. I dont see many other costums from different countries and i dont tell people what is right or wrong. Thank u for ur understanding. Hey Erik,
You seem to know enough about bullfighting as to explain it in this pics but let me tell u some things.
Maybe you didnt notice but when El Juli goes around the ring is because he won a trophy, this is, the bull’s ear. You need to cut out at least 2 of them to get out of the Plaza trough the main gate (Puerta Grande) up in someone shoulders.
U say that el Fandi’s banderillas looked like portuguese, and u were right but the thing is that green and red are the colors that represent Granada, El Fandi’s hometown.
U say also that “sometimes, the bullfighters will remove their hat and throw it to the ground”, well it happens any time they offer thair “faena” to the public, called in the bullfighting slung “el repetable”.
To the people that is against bullfighting i just wanna say that the bull is the most respectable animal in Spain. They live only for the show and they have a better death than the most of the animals in the world. Moreover, they die with dignity and with the applause of the people. When u go to the arena u receive a slip with the 6 bulls profile, name, weith, color, date of birth, the name of the farmer, etc. And thats important too coz the bulls are known (normally we call it after the name of the farmer or sometimes they are enough famous as to be known by his own name).
Anyways, what i wanted to say that this is not cruel, I Dont try people from other cultures to understand it coz we r just from different cultures, but if u never saw a bullfighting dont judge us. I dont see many other costums from different countries and i dont tell people what is right or wrong.
Thank u for ur understanding.

]]> By: Rania http://www.erik-rasmussen.com/blog/2006/07/25/bullfight-in-santander/#comment-2363 Rania Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:05:27 +0000 http://www.erik-rasmussen.com/blog/2006/07/25/bullfight-in-santander/#comment-2363 hi,Erik,can u help,I`m write about Bullfigters and I need an email address some of Bullfighters or phone number my new book name is "Bullfighters"...my msn address blackcat_83_07@hotmail.com hi,Erik,can u help,I`m write about Bullfigters and I need an email address some of Bullfighters or phone number
my new book name is “Bullfighters”…my msn address
blackcat_83_07@hotmail.com

]]> By: Paul http://www.erik-rasmussen.com/blog/2006/07/25/bullfight-in-santander/#comment-1986 Paul Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:02:49 +0000 http://www.erik-rasmussen.com/blog/2006/07/25/bullfight-in-santander/#comment-1986 Hi Kate. I suspect that you apply the term "murder" more liberally than I do. I feel I should correct you on a couple of things, however. Bullfighters are not cowards, and they do not kill animals for no reason to show bravery. The dance they perform with the bull has been entertaining people for centuries. I suspect that humans will fairly soon evolve to the "no animals were harmed in the making of this entertainment" level, but I don't think bullfighting will ever rank in the top 1000 bad things humans did to animals. Hi Kate. I suspect that you apply the term “murder” more liberally than I do. I feel I should correct you on a couple of things, however. Bullfighters are not cowards, and they do not kill animals for no reason to show bravery. The dance they perform with the bull has been entertaining people for centuries.

I suspect that humans will fairly soon evolve to the “no animals were harmed in the making of this entertainment” level, but I don’t think bullfighting will ever rank in the top 1000 bad things humans did to animals.

]]> By: kate http://www.erik-rasmussen.com/blog/2006/07/25/bullfight-in-santander/#comment-1980 kate Tue, 19 Feb 2008 05:22:09 +0000 http://www.erik-rasmussen.com/blog/2006/07/25/bullfight-in-santander/#comment-1980 How the hell can you watch an animal be tortured until it takes its final breath. How people can become so ungodly that they cheer the torturing of an animal to death is almost beyond my comprehension. That so called bravery is nothing but cowardliness. All bullfighters are cowards because they seem to think they need to kill an animal for no reason to be brave. I don't call that bravery. I call that murder. How the hell can you watch an animal be tortured until it takes its final breath. How people can become so ungodly that they cheer the torturing of an animal to death is almost beyond my comprehension. That so called bravery is nothing but cowardliness. All bullfighters are cowards because they seem to think they need to kill an animal for no reason to be brave. I don’t call that bravery. I call that murder.

]]> By: erik http://www.erik-rasmussen.com/blog/2006/07/25/bullfight-in-santander/#comment-1276 erik Mon, 05 Nov 2007 08:36:34 +0000 http://www.erik-rasmussen.com/blog/2006/07/25/bullfight-in-santander/#comment-1276 Wow! A positive American comment about bullfighting! Thanks, Julie! Funny that your name is Julie and you commented about seeing El Juli in July. :-) Caesar certainly left his mark. Wow! A positive American comment about bullfighting! Thanks, Julie!

Funny that your name is Julie and you commented about seeing El Juli in July. :-) Caesar certainly left his mark.

]]> By: Julie http://www.erik-rasmussen.com/blog/2006/07/25/bullfight-in-santander/#comment-1275 Julie Sun, 04 Nov 2007 02:51:25 +0000 http://www.erik-rasmussen.com/blog/2006/07/25/bullfight-in-santander/#comment-1275 I was looking at videos of El Juli in Santander this past summer, and I stumbled upon this blog...I went to this very same bullfight on the same day in July! Santander is great. I hope to go back someday! I was looking at videos of El Juli in Santander this past summer, and I stumbled upon this blog…I went to this very same bullfight on the same day in July! Santander is great. I hope to go back someday!

]]> By: kendall http://www.erik-rasmussen.com/blog/2006/07/25/bullfight-in-santander/#comment-1243 kendall Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:11:17 +0000 http://www.erik-rasmussen.com/blog/2006/07/25/bullfight-in-santander/#comment-1243 i reading a book called shadow of a bull and it says if u put the sword to its head you hurt it a lot the a guy cuts its nerve center why do u go for the spine and not the head email me why at rocketkeeper707@aol.com please i reading a book called shadow of a bull and it says if u put the sword to its head you hurt it a lot the a guy cuts its nerve center why do u go for the spine and not the head email me why at rocketkeeper707@aol.com please

]]> By: erik http://www.erik-rasmussen.com/blog/2006/07/25/bullfight-in-santander/#comment-1059 erik Fri, 07 Sep 2007 04:50:45 +0000 http://www.erik-rasmussen.com/blog/2006/07/25/bullfight-in-santander/#comment-1059 Robert, you seem to know a lot about Spanish culture and how they don't have a concept of cruelty to animals. Have you studied Spanish culture or lived in Spain for many years? Do you have another example, besides bullfighting, that the Spanish regularly engage in cruelty to animals? Do you know the conditions that most livestock, and non-free-range chickens in particular, in the US and UK spend their <i>entire</i> lives? Oh, right, we have "cultural standards" against animal cruelty that keep that behind the curtain at Tesco. Do you know the peace and liberty in which the Toro Bravo spends his <i>entire</i> life before entering the bullring? You've clearly thought about all the moral and cultural complexities of this issue and have properly labeled me as the vicious little pervert I am. I'm thinking about organizing some puppy-kicking competitions. It should be a big hit here in Spain's moral vacuum. Should I award more points for distance or volume of yelp? Robert, you seem to know a lot about Spanish culture and how they don’t have a concept of cruelty to animals. Have you studied Spanish culture or lived in Spain for many years? Do you have another example, besides bullfighting, that the Spanish regularly engage in cruelty to animals?

Do you know the conditions that most livestock, and non-free-range chickens in particular, in the US and UK spend their entire lives? Oh, right, we have “cultural standards” against animal cruelty that keep that behind the curtain at Tesco.

Do you know the peace and liberty in which the Toro Bravo spends his entire life before entering the bullring?

You’ve clearly thought about all the moral and cultural complexities of this issue and have properly labeled me as the vicious little pervert I am. I’m thinking about organizing some puppy-kicking competitions. It should be a big hit here in Spain’s moral vacuum. Should I award more points for distance or volume of yelp?

]]> By: Robert Pittam http://www.erik-rasmussen.com/blog/2006/07/25/bullfight-in-santander/#comment-1058 Robert Pittam Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:15:16 +0000 http://www.erik-rasmussen.com/blog/2006/07/25/bullfight-in-santander/#comment-1058 There's a reason why the Spanish persist in torture and death of animals for entertainment: they do not recognise the concept of cruelty to animals.You, as an American, have been raised in a culture that does. The ease with which you have shrugged off YOUR cultural standards reveals you as the vicious little pervert you are. There’s a reason why the Spanish persist in torture and death of animals for entertainment: they do not recognise the concept of cruelty to animals.You, as an American, have been raised in a culture that does. The ease with which you have shrugged off YOUR cultural standards reveals you as the vicious little pervert you are.

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